Curved switches

Donstaff May 4, 2018

  1. Donstaff

    Donstaff TrainBoard Member

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    Can anyone identify this n-scale remote switch? I'm not sure how to wire it.[​IMG]

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  2. Rocket Jones

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    No idea, but that looks like an Atlas machine.
     
  3. John Moore

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    I also think that may be an older Atlas. I used to have an old copy of the N scale manual that had a turnout page that identified turnouts by make, unfortunately one of the things that got lost in my move several years ago. It should have the manufacturer stamped on the underside somewhere. but that would mean taking the turnout out.
     
  4. KE4NYV

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    If I had to guess, since it's three terminals. One (most likely the center) is common and you have to pulse one to either side with DC voltage to get the turnout to snap to one side or the other. If you try that, start with lower voltage. Maybe +5VDC.

    Good luck!
     
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  5. trainman-ho

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    That is how all the three wire switches I have are wired!!

    Jim
     
  6. rrrover

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    Looks like a Roco. Wire it like an Atlas.
     
  7. randgust

    randgust TrainBoard Member

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    Almost sure that is a Trix. Atlas never made one. Trix made an "R1 R2" with 7 1/2 on the inside and 9 3/4 on the outside, and an R3 R4 with 11 on the inside and 13 on the outside.

    I 'think' the solenoid common is the one furthest away from the rail, anyway, check this out. (white wire)
    http://www.guidetozscale.com/html/minitrix_solenoid_devices.html

    It might also be a Fleischmann 22275.
    https://www.fleischmann.de/cz/product/55203-0-0-0-0-0-0-005009003/products.html

    Either way, one of those three screws is a common and the other two are the solenoid ones. You can figure this out by experimentation; just briefly touch 16V to any two of the screws. If it throws at all, one of the two screws is the common. Doesn't throw, neither screw is the common. As long as you touch for a second or less you won't blow it out experimenting.
     
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  8. Donstaff

    Donstaff TrainBoard Member

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    Thanks to everyone for your helpful comments. I hope to be able to experiment with the curved switch tomorrow.
    The curved switch is part of a wye, and that brings up another question in this same location, to do with the connected reversing module. As wired, the current limit on the reverse section is one loco and two lighted passenger cars. As illustrated by the attached sketches, labeled current and proposed, I wonder if the proposed track plan will work, and if not, what do I need to do to fix it? The track to the right going down goes to a stub yard.

    Don
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  9. Maletrain

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    Your "proposed" sketch will not work because there is no isolated section of the track to reverse.

    Your "current" sketch will work, but is not long enough to avoid problems. If you have metal wheels or lighted passenger cars, or anything else that can bridge one gap while a loco is bridging the other gap, you will get a short circuit that the auto-reverser cannot clear - it will just alternate the location of the short from one end of the isolated section to the other, and a protective breaker will have to open.

    When I had a need for a reverser on a short wye, I put a pair of additional isolated sections on either side of the reversing isolated section and wired it so that the section between reversing section and the side that did not match was electrically dead. I used a 4-pole, double-throw switch to both reverse the center section and to power and cut power to the appropriate side sections with one throw of a switch. I did that manually, with the train loco stopped in the reversing section, which is not too much of an operational issue with a wye. To do it automatically, you will need a reverser with some sort of auxiliary output to control the additional 2 sections.

     
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