Makes me glad I'm a CP guy. This is really shameful... you'd think they'd be HAPPY to see their brand(s) on modelers layouts. Oh they're happy... so long as they get their cut. If not... litigation ensues! I understand the need to ensure their logo(s) and color(s) are being reproduced accurately, but this is FAR too heavy-handed. Yeesh.
they ought to change they're call signs on their equipment, instead of UP, it shoud be USUP, you see it, you pay!!! getting down off of my soap box before i fall down. beast
Has anyone changed the names on their Borg equipment to read "sUinya Pacific?" Or maybe sUnion Pathetic.
Maybe we could sue them for "Deprivation of Enjoyment" , and loss of capital expenditure from having to scrap all our paid for models ?
Some sloguns I remember of the UP, Be Specific, ship Union Pacific! We will Deliver Resistance is Futile
Unlimited Parking Uncomprimising P***** Ugly Paint Utterly Pathetic We Can(t) Handle It We Will-er,Might-uh, Could-oh never mind, We Can't Deliver Goes to show you bigger ain't always better.
Perhaps we ought to invite "Brenda Mainwaring" to post a reply. Oh major Brain Burp, Bad Idea never mind. I placed my order for one of those Ugly Paint Models. I hope to have it this weekend
Owen, Cool!, what will you repaint / patch it to? Edit: Comment: It just occured to me, I wonder why UP is one of two road names that some train store.com is dare i say "dumping"? Hmmm. The other road I have never heard of . Maybe people didn't buy enough? [ March 02, 2006, 04:03 PM: Message edited by: Grey One ]
Grey One. I am not sure yet if I will repaint it, you might see one of those RED MAPLE LEAFS somewhere. I'll let you know
That Maple Leaf is sure better represented on the Canadian roads than that of the US flag on Utterly Pathetic's grunge-on-wheels... How about 'Milking America'? Or, 'We're a great, big, foolish railroad'? How's 'We will deliver late, over budget, or not at all'? On a serious note, the only yellow on my layout will be the TTX flats, and some other non-You Pee roads...
Apparently, they never heard of FREE advertising pays. It's the word of mouth and us modelers who give them the advertisement on our layouts.
Also, UP may be selling their line in Oklahoma City, due to the GM plant closing down. So, that's another line they are losing.
It's "we will deliver. Some day. If we feel like it. And can figure out where we parked that car with your shipment....." Boxcab E50
Actually I don't think our layouts are likely to influance a shipper's decision to use UP As for all of the "bad" press over this trademark issue - that is more likely to have a positive affect on shippers as they see them making a good business decision. Other than that I don't think UP has much competition in the area is serves. Note: My remarks are speculation. I have no facts to support them.
I think we need to donate to the Steamscenes Legal Defense fund... They're fighting back against Useless Pathetic, and they have the UP dancing to drop the suit. Otherwise people need to wise up and not buy UP stuff. Or start sending bills to UP for advertising based on scale miles equipment with the UP logo on it runs at shows or in public view! The mail alone could drive them up the wall and drive the point home. Go Steamscenes!
Greed, greed and more greed! Why do we have to pay them for trademarks that supposedly expires 5 years by Federal law after the parent company has wholly absorbed the company they've purchaed. Supposedly the trademark becomes public domain. And PFE hasn't been around since the 1970s after it was split up into SPFE and UPFE. This company is gone and yet UP claims rights to it. I little food for thought! Mark
UP's use of the flag is crass marketing taking advantage of the American people and has nothing to do with patriotism. As for who the flag belongs to: If as you say it depends on your active partisipation in the US armed forces then why did you mention your kin folks partisipation. It is irrelevant to your claim. If on the other hand you can "inherit" the possesion to the flag then my fathers preparations to be pre invasion forces, (read one way mission), of Japan would qualify me. Being 4F you would otherwise deny my right to the flag. While I am grateful for your service and sacrifice to and for this nation I disagree with your premis. By the way, could you document where that is said in the Constitution of the United States of America? I must have missed that part. Thanks - The Blind Grey One - whose vision sees things differently.
