This is the fly over near sparta, WI... http://terraserver.microsoft.com/image.aspx?T=2&S=12&Z=15&X=851&Y=6089&W=2&qs=|Sparta|WI| It looks like it was maybe CNWs route into Sparta or a very expansive MILW branch. The aerial photo shows the steel flyover well, the concrete abutments say 1928 on them but by 1985 this was already listed as abandoned. 20 years later, still here and would make an excellent framed shot. If you want to see it, it is accessible via public roads, head down RTE 21, turn south on Ginger rd. You can watch trains on public property just before FT McCoy boundry. http://maps.yahoo.com/beta/index.ph...4656&trf=0&lon=-90.731438&lat=43.977738&mag=2
This "flyover" doesn't sound familiar. I nominate Andy, to be our official investigator in this case! Boxcab E50
Ken, I will check it out because I am curious to what a "fly over" is!! But if it has trains involved I have to see it. I will let you know.
Andy- A true flyover, is when you have tracks at the same elevation. You take one, (or more), ramp them up, over a bridge across other tracks, and then back down to ground level again on the other side. This is instead of having at grade crossings, ("diamonds"), or a series of crossover switches, to move a train from one side to the other. Clear as mud? Boxcab E50
Well Ken, I procided on my quest today. I made the thirty mile oneway trip, camera at the ready. I drove all the way to Fort Mc Coy seeing nothing so went back to Tunnel City and still nothing. I did this three times and never found Ginger st. I couldn't even find it on a map. So I just headed home and will have to my quest another day. I tried!!
I am sorry you wasted your day, if you can use the new Yahoo maps beta try this: http://maps.yahoo.com/beta/index.ph...s,+wi&trf=0&lon=-90.69231&lat=43.941294&mag=6 It may be faster to go on I94 through Sparta, I am down in Chicago now, but will be back up @ McCoy next week, On Friday I got a nice pic of the Army GP10 that runs around the Base. If you have any questions PM me. There is a CP hotbox detector just north of Sparta, on AAR channel 94. So if you have a scanner that will help with Eastbounds.
OK, I see it now! I didn't go far enough, it is on the west side of the base closer to Sparta. When I was up there Sat. I seen the GP 10 parked out by the fence. I think the "flyover" you saw was the old C&NW line which was abandoned when the Tunel City tunnel collasped some time in the 70's. C&NW bought track rights and used the Milw. line into La Crosse.
I live just a few miles away if you are standing ontop of or near the base of the Milw Tunnel the old CN Tunnel will be to the North there are no tracks left any more and I believe as I walked the abandoned rail bed to Tunnel City I only saw 2 ties the block work desined to keep people out has been greatly vandalized and I have walked from the west entrance past a partial secondary cave in to the main cave in. Also directly south of the Milw tunnel we're talking less than 300ft away is another sealed tunnel there is a human sized opening and I hope to do an expidition it to this tunnel as soon as my camera is fixed.
I am meaning to post this as a new Military Rails thread topic when I can get a pic, but just as a heads up for anyone in the area, FT McCoy just recieved a RailPower GG20B, the old GP10(?) 4600 is parked on a spur north of the main gate and looks like it is being prepped for storage or sale. Brad
Schomy, You be careful in there, Milw. had two tunnel openings on the west side of the hill. They straightend the tunnel outat one time and abandoned the one opening, but it still probably connects with the live tunnel.I hate you to get in there with a train, there is not alot of extra room.
Will do not my first rodeo to some place that is probably not a good place for a human being to be. Who knows maybe I'll find Hoffa while I'm in there.
Here is a few of the about 60 pics I got today. Most of these are of the East portal of the Milw. Tunnel the other is a CP train east of the tunnel in tunnel city on the Milw. Line
Schomy- Thanks! Very interesting to read the information. It would have been interesting, to see that dedication ceremony. Way back in 1875. Must have been quite a show! Boxcab E50