My coffee table Z scale trains

Wayno Mar 1, 2024

  1. CNE1899

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    Wayno,
    Attached is the parts list from Marklin 8861.

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    Last edited: Apr 24, 2024
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  2. Wayno

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    I am happy to have that as it gives me an idea on how to pull the locomotive apart so thankyou, but I was hoping to buy the front and rear trucks complete, I am learning.

    I expect if I cannot find what I need I can use the part numbers to order just the axle/gear I need to fix the truck, I believe I need part 19, I do not think I need part 20 or part 13/14 which ever one it was that the wheel plastic hub center melted on, btw the hole in the middle of the wheel is square.
     
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  3. Wayno

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    I spent a few hours a couple days ago working on the turn in/turn out(depending on train direction) that is on the upper right, if you follow the silver passenger/baggage cars backwards it is the first turnout/turn-in you come to, right around when the locomotive crosses that turn-in the first car derails when moving slow, the slow speed I am talking about is around 90/95 on the speed controller and slower, I think the last car is still being pulled up the hill before the crossing you see back beyond the turn-in, so I tried a lot of things to fix this issue as I like slow moving trains the most, I tried 2 locomotives(tandem) at the front, no matter what car is behind the locomotives it derails, so then I tried the baggage car between the two locomotives and got the same result, high speed this is not an issue, I would watch the car wiggle violently and derail, I messed with that turn-in/turnout trying nto figure out why the all wiggle so much when in that turn-in/turnout, I managed to make things better except no matter what I do the first car derails, the rest of the train in back of the first or second locomotive depending how I have it configured just has too much weight, I thought it between the two locomotives would help by the second locomotive taking most the weight of the cars behind it, but it changes nothing, I tried adding a small amount weight(small nut and foam to hold it in position) in the front of the baggage car between the two locomotives and that changed nothing, so I thought more weight, in the past I added to much weight and the train would not make it uphill to the crossing but I had to try something, so I added a 2" to 2.5" piece of 1/4/20 threaded rod to that baggage car between the two locomotives with foam to hold it from moving inside the car, the result was no more derailing at any speed, it even goes thru the turn-in/turnout much smoother, I have no idea why it goes up the uphill grade without any issue, it hardly even slows down at any speed when before I could not get it up the hill to the crossing and I tried it with one locomotive also without an issue.

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    I have been using two or more locomotives recently because I have less issues with the trains stopping for no apparent reason, at this time I am running four 8800 type steam locomotives with can motors on a very long train(7 cars/4 locomotives), it will make it up the hill with three but slows some, with four locomotives it goes right up the hill and crosses that crossing without any issue from slow to medium speeds, at fast speeds cars start de-coupling over that crossing before the turn-in/turnout I have working on, but that is the straight section of circuit 2, the derailing issue on the curve/turn-in/turnout is circuit 3.

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    I feel I made significant progress on this, I ran all three trains last night without any derailing issues except for collisions when distracted for some other reason, I mean it is always something, isn't it. :LOL:
     
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  4. Wayno

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    I bought a new locomotive with 4 boxcars and a caboose for just the cost of a new locomotive and a lot of used ones and it arrived yesterday, I tested the locomotive on the test track and it ran fine, but when I put the boxcars and caboose behind it, it would not go up any incline at all no matter how shallow, this is what I bought.

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    Here it is on the test track with another locomotive in front of it, believe it or not that test track is not on a level surface, without that black locomotive in front of it the blue locomotive cannot pull them 3 boxcars and caboose around that track, it gets to the slightly uphill part and it just starts to spin and spin in place, the wheels have no traction, it will pull one boxcar around that circle but no more than that.

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    Does anyone have any ideas how to make the wheels on the locomotive stickier, all my hills/slopes/inclines are way steeper that the test track slope/incline, that locomotive is just about useless the way it is by itself, all my 3 circuits in my coffee table have up and down slopes, not all circuits do I need to run locomotives in tandem or more to get the whole train up the hills, the wheels on this locomotive just spin and spin without moving, putting that other black locomotive in front of it makes things better, but the black locomotive would pull the 3 boxcars and caboose by itself without ban issue, any ideas, sand the wheels with a file/sandpaper/???

    With the black locomotive it will make it around circuit one in my coffee table track, but the boxcars keep derailing randomly, I have other boxcars that derail a lot, it is very annoying, my green boxcar that came with the original two train kit in 2005 does not derail a lot unless it is connected/coupled to the other blue boxcar I have had for a while that does derail a lot, do they need to be heavier?

    I like the looks of this locomotive/3 boxcars/caboose, the only reason I bought it(new old stock) was I was getting boxcars and a caboose for the cost of a locomotive alone, but the locomotive will not pull much of anything around any of my circuits in my coffee table tracks by itself, it appears to have the power but the wheels will not stick to the track, my other locomotives do not have this issue unless I am trying to haul around 6+ cars.
     

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